Apple fires back, countersues Nokia

The big head at Cupertino fire back. Apple countersues Nokia saying that “other companies must compete with us by inventing their own technologies, not just by stealing ours”. Apple is suing Nokia for infringing 13 Apple patents. According to the press release “Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone”.







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  • 52 Responses to “Apple fires back, countersues Nokia”
    1. Man do i hate Apple. I hope that company crashes and burns fast

    2. what were the 13 patents??

    3. add my voice arun.

    4. As the title says!

    5. Eternal Patents :
      1 electron 8 locked in battery
      2 aluminimum 9 justice
      3 plastic 10 books
      4 circular building 11 1 year warranty
      5 big mac 12 micmac
      6 illusion 13 in a dozen
      7 scottish prefix

      :) Regards jApi NL

    6. Apple fucks Nokia in the ass..!

    7. What are The 13 Patents than?

    8. Hmmm yepp.. This case will go on for a long time! vlong time!

    9. Wutabuttboy says:

      Could you be anymore of a an apple buttboy Titans?!!!

    10. List of those patents is just ridiculous. Apple must be really desperate :P I don’t think they have any chance to win that case.

    11. And by the way.

      How Apple dare to claim that Nokia steals their patented technology when it’s 100% clear that Apple steals Nokia’s patented technology?

      It’s impossible to build working mobile phone whitout using technologies invented and patented by Nokia. So there is no doubt at all that Apple violates Nokia’s patents when Apple don’t pay licenses!

      So Apple seems to think that THEY can steal as much they want, and when they get caught they start to claim that thy are victims??

    12. Well it is not the first time when Apple steals from others. How many of you think that mouse, windowed desktop environment and icons were invented by Apple?

      Well it was not. Actually Steve jobs and his friends did steal the idea from Xerox. Xerox. They visited Xerox at Palo Alto. Xerox did have working prototype and quess what? Steve jobs copied the idea and released it as their own invention.

      And by the way. Commodore did develop their own pre-emptive multirasking OS ( Amiga OS) at the same time Aple could not even multitask. Amiga OS did have full pre.-emptive multitasking starting from the first version, Apples OS was not able to multitask at all. And AmigaOS’s deskltop environment was much more advanced when compared to Apple’s.

    13. it’s apple …desperate very desperate. Nokia > apple .
      No need for your fan boy stuff ok? Don’t even bother arguing.

    14. Among the patents Apple accuses Nokia of infringing:

      * No. 5,634,074 : Serial I/O device identifies itself to a computer through a serial interface during power on reset then it is being configured by the computer
      * No. 6,343,263 B1 : Real-time signal processing system for serially transmitted data
      * No. 5,915,131 : Method and apparatus for handling I/O requests utilizing separate programming interfaces to access separate I/O services
      * No. 5,555,369: Method of creating packages for a pointer-based computer system
      * No. 6,239,795 B1: Pattern and color abstraction in a graphical user interface
      * No. 5,315,703: Object-oriented notification framework system
      * No. 6,189,034 B1: Method and apparatus for dynamic launching of a teleconferencing application upon receipt of a call
      * No. 7,469,381, B2: List scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touch-screen display
      * No. RE 39, 486 E: Extensible, replaceable network component system
      * No. 5,455,854: Object-oriented telephony system
      * No. 7,383,453 B2: Conserving power by reducing voltage supplied to an instruction-processing portion of a processor
      * No. 5,848,105: GMSK signal processors for improved communications capacity and quality
      * No. 5, 379,431: Boot framework architecture for dynamic staged initial program load

    15. cmon, everyone is suing each other nowadays. thats how it works ;)

    16. Come on Nokia lovers, first of you started it! Second of all, build a bettet
      phone so you dont have to steal ideas from a cleary superior phone, like the iPhone!

      :-P
      //Lurefiix
      http://www.DailyiPhone.se

    17. lurefix how many apple ba**s have ya licked today faggot?!!!

    18. Wooho, that respons was the equivalent of a five year old. And whats even better is the fact that you just lowered the bar for Nokia users. Good jobb! ;)

      I Think the term is: pwnd!
      (ps. it means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn .ds)

    19. @ john: i like the way you’ thinking!

      @lurefiix: iPhone isn’t superior.. neither is one of nokia’s phone.. they all have advantages and disadventagens..
      but nokias don’t have the problems that they cutt while your calling, or exploding.. ok there are some that did but not as many as iPhones,, not even close!
      but i have to admit the iphone is easy to work with and looks nice

      and what you say (”iPhone is superior”) is YOUR opinion,, so don’t be so childish and accept OTHER”s opinions

      kthxbye

      So don’t be so childish and stop fucking around..

      i h

    20. lol the text stops after the kthxbye xD
      forgot to delete what i typed earlier

    21. Right now it seems to be most personal opinion. But its really fun to se a battle between Nokia-talibans and iPhone-talibans.

      I My self use an E-71 for work, and a iPhone for fun. Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Samsung, HTC, yeah all of them are miles behind iPhone in feeling and Apps, and so on!

      ;)

      (ps. “So don’t be so childish and stop fucking around..” <–And you think thats mature? :P .ds)

    22. lol i was planning on deleting it but forgot :D

    23. Apple is just a marketing company. They design a good looking and good selling product, then they call an asian manufacturer and tell em to make it.
      But Nokia has the technical Engineers and the technical Skills to invent new technology.

    24. See what Apple do and have been doing is the same for years. They pinch other people’s ideas and products. Put it through the ‘Apple Innovation’ machine and spill out an easy to use ‘human’ friendly product that looks nice.
      Im not an Apple fan and not entirely slating off Apple products. They do produce nice looking, slick and easy to use interfaced devices but at the same time nick other people’s ideas and products. It is the fault of companies to not do it before them hence the huge claim that the iPhone is amazing but clearly when you think about it, it isnt!

      Apple claim they invented the Capacitive multi-touch screen, wrong its been around for years just no one had put it on a phone.
      Apple claim they had invented proximity sensors on phones, wrong Nokia have had that on one of their older phones.
      Apple claim features such as voice dialling and picture messaging are innovative and fantastic new features. Are they?

      I’m starting to really hate the Apple fan people though who claim that Apple are saviours and are far superior to everything and charge you about 10 x the cost of production and design. And worse of all, the media love the iPhone and call any other rival phones by the statement:

      “Could this be the iPhone killer?”

      End of the day, this suit will be a long long legal battle that will most likely end up in a out of court undisclosed settlement.

    25. hhaha IPHONE really!!!!
      are you really saying that.
      very funny indeed.
      you americans are very interesting people.
      first of all you must see the origin and pioneers in mobile technology and gsm.
      without nokia and ericsson you wouldnt have this today.
      second about el power.
      yeah
      without tesla you wouldnt have some stuff today and not like in history books edison.
      you are pirats, you americans

    26. i cant believe that apple is suing for patents that are 30 yrs old, wen clearly every computer and phone manufacturer use these in their systems

    27. I think i ought to take a look at this counter suing idea. Maybe apple might have a legal point. You can’t ignore that.

      P.s: comparing apple and nokia is like comparing coke and green tea. One makes you feel good, the other IS good.

    28. i wanna add sumthing. if these manufactures were smart, instead of sueing eachother they should share their ideas and developement to make better more stable systems in exponential progress. ive used all the different phone systems and ive chosen nokia as they ARE the pioneers in the mobile industry. iphone have the most stable OS but they lack personality. app this and app that, theres an app for going to chuck a shit. if it was up to me id get an iphone with winmo. and to the die hard nokia fans, next yr symbian os 2. cant wait!

    29. If you put winmo on an iphone, it’ll die like fish out of water. Winmo would drag the iphone through all kinds of crap until it turns over and dies. The iphone os is as slick as the phones design, and iphone users dont want to bother with multitasking. The just want a phone that plays music, can ’surf’ the web, and handle calls – in style.

      A nokia nseries user on the other hand is a power user. We need more than just plane jane looks, we need a machine capable of doing almost anything we want it to do. And then some more. Browse flash sites, watch youtube, dowload a torrent, or even edit a video.

      Just take a look at the selling points of a iphone and a n900. Totally different worlds. Each caters to a different audience.

    30. u got a point but would u rather get urself an ipod touch and a nokia 1208. save urself a lot of money and battery.

    31. “Apple entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone”. Really???? What was so revolutionary about the iPhone??? The touchscreen or the HUGE lack of features that Nokia had since ages?

    32. heres a quote i picked up – “Ever wanted to have anal sex with urself? Well theres app for that. Ever wanted to use ur phone as a vibrator? Theres an app for that. Or even wanted chuck ur phone in a sea of sharks? Theres also an app for that… Only on the Iphone. The possibilities are endless”

      lol love it

    33. Scope –> Super lol =)

    34. anas n97mini user says:

      now thats intersting….well i like to see u guys fight…so y not join in…i simply love my mini n97 when i open the qwerty pad everyone in the office looks at the phone with wide open eyes…theres nothing new to iphone…just the new app…plz dont tell me for sharing files through bluetooth u ipoo guys have to go through so many apps…and out of those soo many apps …tell me how many are worth downloading and i know its about 0.000001%

    35. today i heard 2 guys arguing dat iphone is better dan nokia tenfold and the end he said “iphone isnt just a smart phone, its a lifestyle”… i bursted in histeria. wat a tool.

      wen ppl compare the iphone to the n97 in useless crap like twitter apps they should stop and say: lets compare bluetooth data transfer capabilities and customisation.

      that is all

    36. NOTICE FOR :Steve Jobs and other apple damn f**cking products

      Stop sue…ing Nokia. Thats becoz ur own product didnt good as Nokia’s one.

    37. Epic fanboy battle.

      Sorry folks I’ve been a Nokia diehard for years and even I’m not that blinkered. Why do you people think Nokia are having to close down its flagship stores, and pay off a load of its workers? It isn’t because they have been producing great phones lately, its because they haven’t produced a decent phone since the N95.

      Seriously folks take your head out of the clouds and look at the figures, Nokia is losing market share, and not only that its making financial loses where before it was making profit. That right there is the reality of the situation. It doesn’t matter how entrenched you are behind Apple or Nokia, it doesn’t alter the figures, Nokia are in trouble, its not just the threat from Apple but also RIM and Android, and besides the N900 Nokia simply doesn’t have an answer for them.

    38. i also think its because most of the nokia fans waited for nokia to release a touch screen phone for too long and disappointed with the long wait, they crossed the border to the other side like lg and samsung. for shame ppl…
      i waited for the n97 for 2 yrs and kept using my e65. and wen i got it i had to wait for fw 2 update and now i gotta wait till os2, so ill keep waiting.
      im one of the ppl who will always support nokia. no matter wat happens ill stick it out.

    39. @scope

      Maybe if people had voted with their wallets instead of blindly buying something because of the Nokia badge, then Nokia might not be in the mess its in now. Nokia only started to react when its market share and profits started to decline, before that they were happy to keep selling the same sub par hardware.

      Even now its flagship devices run on the same core hardware as its low end touch screen phones, and its not like its flagship devices are cheap. People should buy a product because that product is in fact good, not because the company who made it used to be good.

    40. “Maybe if people had voted with their wallets instead of blindly buying something because of the Nokia badge, then Nokia might not be in the mess its in now.”

      What mess? Nokia is still invincible market leader both in normal mobile phones and smart phones.

      And by the way. i think it’s those Apple guys who blindly buy something because of the badge, not Nokia users.

      “Even now its flagship devices run on the same core hardware as its low end touch screen phones”

      Nokia’s low end phones do not have touch screen, those don’t even have a Symbian.

    41. And by the way don’t forget that world has suffered from global recession lately. If you look at the heavy losses made by many other mobile phone companies like Sony Ericsson then Nokia has actually survived quite well from this recession.

    42. @skullet

      we dont buy a fone for its badge, we buy em coz we know that nokia has quality in its products and we know theyll take care of us.. take a look at tehkseven for example for wat he done to the n900 n its still good. put the iphone through the same n it wont get past the drop test properly.
      i will never by anything coz of “hype” about the product. ill do research 1st. and the fact that ive used practically all the phone systems including the new toshiba tg01 and the old sagem phones, name 1 ive used it, and i still chose nokia speaks for it self.
      sum ppl decide to follow the crowd and the media and sum ppl like to do the deciding for themselves.

    43. @miksuh

      Nokia invincible? Your either 10 years old or mentally challenged. Please take a look at Nokia’s 2009 finacial report, then tell me they are invincible. They are getting absolutely hammered financially, this is why they are paying off thousands of staff and closing down flagship stores.

      While they might still have the lead in terms of market share, their profitability has fallen through the floor, they are now making substantial loses. Now look at Apples finacial report, they have made huge profits from just the iPhone alone, this has to be deeply embarrassing for Nokia. As to Sony Ericsson they were losing money well before the economy crashed so your example carries no water here.

      Also learn how to read, I said and I quote “Even now its flagship devices run on the same core hardware as its low end touch screen phones”

      Nokia’s low end touch screen phones are the 5800, 5530 etc, they all have touch screen and run on Symbian.

      If your going to reply to this message, at least try and be partially right about something, as currently your pretty much wrong about everything you’ve said.

    44. @scope

      If thats why you buy Nokia phones then you’ve got serious problems. Nokia hasn’t produced quality phones since the N95 and it certainly doesn’t care about its customers, if it did then it wouldn’t keep palming them off with buggy phones running on under powered hardware.

      I’m sorry but that whole tehkseven video was deeply embarrassing for tehkseven, whoever made it should really get out more, maybe even make some friends. Also you are simply speculating, please stick to facts that you can actually back up with data.

      And I’m sorry but your very much following the crowd here, in fact heres a quote from you earlier “im one of the ppl who will always support nokia. no matter wat happens ill stick it out.” Sorry but you don’t sound very impartial, you sound very much like a fanboy who will buy Nokia phones regardless of how bad they are, after all thats exactly what you just said.

    45. looks like u hav hav selective reading coz i said, twise as i recall, ive used all the different phones.
      and theres one lil whole in ur theory and it is that nokia has been working on the n97 way b4 they released the 5800 and also contemplating on the n98 full touch. they wated to perfect the n97 but then the gfc occured and they had to rush into selling it, which was, really, a whole yr too late. ppl either were happy with their current phone (those who dont care about features) or already bought a touch phone from another company (ie my post b4).
      yes nokia made a mistake and theyre fixing it. yes they gotta close flagship stores and fire 1000s of employees, but if thats what it takes to save the company then do it.
      u cant seriously say that the nseries fone are under par. only other contenders are htc and blackberry. (please no1 say lg coz its the biggest piece of crap fone manufacturer ive used). ud know this if u keep upto date.

      ps. nokia has released a number of cheap fone to flood the market and ballance profits. untill then we’ll have to see what else they hav planned

    46. and the thing about tehkseven… ill just pretend u didnt say that. his good at wat he does and he makes a living.

    47. Selective reading? Ok let me put it this way, if you were lying about always buying Nokia no matter how bad it gets and those were pretty much the words you used, then why should I believe anything else you have said? Consistency is the key here, you are flip flopping all over the place.

      And how is that a “whole” as you put it in my theory? It doesn’t matter if Nokia had been working on the N97 for the last decade, it still runs on the same crap hardware as the 5800 and its even cheaper spin offs, if Nokia really cared even a little it wouldn’t be selling low end hardware at premium prices, would it?

      Paying off the workers who make the phones isn’t going to save Nokia, its the people responsible for running the company that need to go, they are the ones who have been making the bad decisions. Fire the people who brought us N Gage and Ovi store.

      You can’t seriously think N Series aren’t bellow par, the core hardware is a 434Mhz cpu with absolutely no GPU support, I can buy a T Mobile Pulse (Huawei U8220) here in the UK for a quarter of the price I’d pay for an N97, but the Pulse has a 528Mhz CPU and double the RAM, not to mention the OS is far superior to S60v5.

      You should probably brush up on real world economics, as you aren’t grasping how it works. Flooding the market with cheap phones would only balance profit if they were actually making enough profit on said cheap phones, but they aren’t and thats why they are having to pay off thousands of staff. Nokia is only keeping market share buy selling cheap phones, but it isn’t making much money by doing so. In contrast Apple are selling less but making huge amounts of profit.

      I’m sorry but being good at destroying a phone doesn’t rank high on my list of worthwhile qualities, maybe its because I’m an adult and as such these things are just a little bit sad.

    48. so ur saying if ur friend was giving u a lift to work everyday and sumone offered to drive u to work in a better car. ur gonna tell ur friend to fuck off.

      im not arguing that nokia makes the best fones in the world. im saying theyre better dan the iphone.

      u can go and jump from fone to fone but ppl need to support companies like nokia, they are the companies who made it possible for all the others.

      and apple shouldnt be sueing for 30yr old patents wen they infringed on newly developed techs and get bit for it. y dont they sue microsoft and all the other companies.

      and if ur such an adult why bother with forums?

    49. @scope

      A friend is someone that I have a personal relationship with, Nokia are a company who make phones, where is the connection there? Sorry but thats got to be about the worst analogy I’ve heard for a long time. The fact that you relate Nokia as being on the same level as a friend is quite disturbing.

      You aren’t really saying anything, you are merely regurgitating the same fanboy nonsense I’ve heard a million times before, while blatantly disregarding any facts that don’t fit your picture.

      Why do people need to support Nokia? They are just like any other company, your success or failure should be based on the quality of your products, not blind loyalty from fanboys.

      So its ok for Nokia to sue Apple, but its not ok for Apple to sue Nokia, do you even realise how much of a fan boy you are?

      Newsflash: Adults use forums too, yes you heard it here first. Seriously kid, at least brush up on the basics if your going to bother replying, as your just providing me with laughs here.

    50. listen here pom boy ur kind isnt welcome here… so go back to the cave u crawled out of.

      nokia will pravail!!!

    51. @babe

      You should probably work on your insults as I felt embarrassed for you there. Consider this a pity reply.



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